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Monday, November 16, 2009

Justice


Our last blog was very involved. So many of you provided good arguments that asked those who believe differently to think outside the box. Thinking outside of the box is always a good skill.
The picture to the right has the Justice League. For those of you who are comic book or cartoon lovers, they are familiar. They provide justice to those who experience no justice. A television show called Leverage does the same thing.
This is an idea that so many of us are familiar with.
Think about what justice looks like.

Is justice ever served?


Does anyone ever really deserve justice for a wrong that has been put on them?


Are there different degrees of wrongs committed and do
they deserve different degrees of justice?


What is the difference between an eye for an eye and
justice?

Justice
–noun
1. the quality of being just; righteousness, equitableness, or moral rightness: to uphold the justice of a cause.
2. rightfulness or lawfulness, as of a claim or title; justness of ground or reason: to complain with justice.
3. the moral principle determining just conduct.
4. conformity to this principle, as manifested in conduct; just conduct, dealing, or treatment.
5. the administering of deserved punishment or reward.
This is the definition according to Dictionary.com.
Look at the questions in purple. Think about them and try to answer. Feel free to comment on the blogs of others. Please remember that you must be respectful of one another and do not insult each other. Happy blogging and I look forward to watching you think.

94 comments:

Anonymous said...

I believe that justice is served for certain things, but in an entirety justice is never served and never will be. My idea of justice and your's could be completely different, so in my opinion justice could be served, but not in your's.
Even if a wrong is put on someone, I believe they deserve justice.
There are many different degrees of wrongs committed. Just like how crimes can be classified as a misdemeanor or felony and such. A person who steals a candy bar does not deserve to face the death penalty or even years in jail.
An eye for an eye and justice are very different. An eye for an eye is doing the same exact thing back. Like if someone killed someone then they should be killed. Justice would just make them pay for killing whoever.

Djakovic said...

Justice can always be served to both the good and the bad, but the real answer to this is that equal justice is not served to everyone. And besides if the government or even God saw everyone's problems and difficulties to be unfair or unjust. Wouldn't they come to help?
No! This is because the all high and mighty people never care much for the little people. They all are known throughout history and even now! But in order for there to be proof that there is someone that is there to really help us, would we truly believe in God? Would everyone actually start liking the government? I'm am insane about justice, the government, power and all of these topics that relate to this with religion. For religion is what makes us fight. So what I want to say is, "Fight to the death for what you truly desire, but no one would care. All you will get is your own little empty feeling inside that no one knows you exist." You are just one of billions of people, and if you were just one person out of those billion would you look out for those that are just like you? I know I wouldn't because everyone can be replaced with another human being. For everyone's the same as it says in the Constitution, right?

No one deserves true justice, what they've done in the past is already enough of breaking our moral codes of honor. People are being so stupid as to think that morals and the ability to change would mean that all people can have equal justices. You guys just want me to say, "Oh, I'm ignorant and stupid and tend to go against the government and these stupid justice systems." Well I think that my views are right and you're the ignorant ones. For you are just one person in billions and, who cares for just one?

All wrongs? All sins is the perfect term! When people say wrongs, they tend to think, "Ooops!" but when you think sins it is more critical in the eyes of the faithful and religious. There are no different sins, there can be "just" and "unjust" sins but nothing of the other matter. Just sins are those that you do everyday, LIE, CHEAT, STEAL, FART. But to you those are every day things, right? There's big things that you do but you don't even notice like killing a man, destroying the trees, killing the whales. You know what some people say *HINT HINT* "Burn the trees!" "Kill the whales for their blubber!" "Who cares about the trees!"
We all have our visions and using them for the wrong purposes is unjust, Justice is an illusion, same as freedom, and many other things. My vision of this though, is crystal glass clear.

GO AGAINST THE SYSTEM!
NO ONE CARES FOR US!
WE AS ONE SUCK!
WE AS WE, ARE JUST ONE GROUP!
LISTEN, DO YOU HEAR THAT?
THE GOVERNMENT IS LISTENING IN!
NOT!

Marissa Pappas said...

I do believe that justice is served, and is served frequently. However, there are many cases where justice is not given, and each one of these cases defile the law and order of our court systems.

EVERYONE deserves justice for a wrong that has been committed against them. The guilty who commit crimes against victims should be punished, and the victims should receive justice. No matter the crime- justice should be paid, regardless of who should be receiving it.

There are in fact different degrees of wrong committed- and because this is a law of life, different degrees of justice should be applied to the different degrees of wrongs- it only makes sense. Take for example, someone intentionally kills another- manslaughter, which is a significant crime, should receive a significant consequence. Several centuries ago, if someone were to be caught stealing, regardless of whether or not this someone was a child or an elderly person, their hand would be cut off. Stealing, a crime committed frequently, doesn't deserve the consequence of removal of appendages. That's a little too drastic. It's an equal ratio; the degree of crime should equal the measure of justice given to that crime.

Eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth- it's a harsh, but yet a realistic justice system. The justice system we have today is more humane, but yet, it's simplified to the fact that if you commit manslaughter, all you receive is time in jail- with the exception of receiving the death penalty for a heneous crime. If "eye for an eye" were in effect today, I would think that America would be no better than any barbaric nation- we would be using cruel and unusual punishment; however, with the effect of that system, I believe that all would think twice about commiting a crime.

alisha hoy said...

I think justice is served on various levels, although justice is not always justice.Sometimes people think they are bringing justice but are actually doing the opposite. There are many different types. If someone kills someone then they get a long time in jail. If someone steals your candy and eats it then what are you to do? steal theres? No. Thats the wrong way to do it but some justice is like that.

alisha

Djakovic said...

MOMENTS OF INSANITY ARE MY SPECIALTY!

Allison H. said...
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Allison H. said...

I believe that justice can be served. It can be served but just because someone serves it, it doesn’t mean they actually learned anything. I think if someone committed a crime then they deserve to pay the price. If there was never a penalty for something someone did, our world would be horrible, people would do whatever they wanted, kill whoever they wanted. It would be a mess. I think there are different degrees of wrongs committed. There is a difference between killing someone and stealing a pencil from them. I do think they deserve different degrees of justice. I think someone that commits murder should get a very large penalty like life time in jail or even a higher penalty. I think if someone steals something, they should get a smaller penalty because they did a smaller crime. The difference between an eye for an eye and justice is that eye for an eye means if you kill someone, you should be killed. Justice is something that is right. Justice is paying for what you did. It may not be death. I think if there was a death penalty for anyone who committed a murder, there would be fewer killings because people would be less likely to kill because they would know that their penalty is death. I am not saying that the death penalty is right; I just think that it would make the amounts of killings go down, or people think twice about committing a crime.

Allison Haynes

caitlyn b said...

Although we have had wrongs put against us we have put wrongs against others, no matter how much we try to deny it, we have all been mean or rude or done somthing unjust to someone else. So why is it that people get so upset about things others have done to them, when they themselves have done somthing to someone else that was unjust. Justice can come in all different shapes, sizes, and for all differnt reasons. People make mistakes, everyone does, beacause no one is perfect, so then different situations call for different forms of justice. If someone does something wrong as small as lying, should that be given the same punishment as someone who murders someone? No. I believe that cause and effect is a big part of justice. As different as the outcomes or the effects, are in different situations, so are the situations that caused it.

Tom Ludwig, PHD said...

You know, justice has a lot to do with power. Usually, when somebody does something wrong they are abusing their power, and power is needed to assert the fact that the thing that person did was wrong.

Justice can make someone feel better, but it truely NEVER REALLY SOLVES ANYTHING.

This is an opinion, but let me just tell you, it's a factual opinion at that.

Justice never solves anything all the way because really, true justice would only be the ability to undo the wrong that someone has done. This would be possible, if time travel was also possible. However, it is not, because something that has already happened cannot be changed in this universe. Therefore, the bad thing that somebody did will have been endured by the victim no matter how much the agressor wants to reverse it.

There. Now someone argue with me so I can prove you wrong.

Have a great day, everyone.

Tom Ludwig, PHD said...

Djakovic should settle down.

Jeff Neuhaus said...

I agree with Tom Ludwig, justice can never really solve anything one hundred percent. What happens happens, there is no going back. What you do now will indefinitely impact your future. If someone tries to rob a convenience store, for example, and the cashier doesn't give them the money, the person may be driven to shoot them. If they are caught, they will be arrested and put in prison. This is how justice works. However, that poor family now has one less member. That member could've been the father, the provider for the family. He could have children, who now have no father. Yet all this man gets is a prison sentence. That will NEVER undo the death of someone. Not even if the assassin himself was to be put to death. An innocent man would've been killed no matter what. That is where I think justice can never be served. Different degrees of wrong do deserve different degrees of justice. For killing a man, I think the punishment should be that of the crime: death, regardless of age. If you are old enough to kill someone intentionally, you are old enough to accept the consequence of death. That would be an eye for an eye, and it is what I believe. The punishment should fit the crime. Justice should be served on the major issues, instead of singling out minor crimes. Police officers waste their time riding around, checking people’s speeds. They are doing this while people are victims of abuse, murder, rape, much larger crimes. Many of the larger crimes go undetected, while the little crimes receive the most attention from local justice systems, like speeding tickets. On an even smaller scale, is justice really ever served when the matter doesn’t concern the government? As Dragan said, people lie, steal, and cheat everyday, and we are all victims to it. It mostly goes unseen, because we as people cannot solve our own problems without a mediator, like the government. We are so accustomed to these small injustices that they just keep growing. If lying, stealing, and cheating do not deserve proper justice, what will be next. Bigger things, such as killing whales (hah Dragan) will become more accepted, and less disciplined by the justice system.

Tom Ludwig, PHD said...

Jeff, I am going to argue with you.

You said that justice never really solves anything one jundred percent.

Why then would you go on to write that the punishment for killing a man should be death?

If it doesn't solve anything, what is the use of killing the person who killed another person?

Whoever killed the killer then should also be killed according to you.

Then, everyone in the world would eventually have to die because of what YOU started.

Happy?

Have a great day, will you?

Christina B said...

Justice is something that someone has, but must act in certain ways to keep it. Someone does not deserve justice if they have commited a crime or penalty. If someone has done something as small as talking back, they still loose justice. Maybe they loose a cell phone, grounded, t.v. or computer privelges. If someone has commited a crime as large as killing someone or hurting anyother they loose justice, just more. They might be sent to jail or serve time completing community work. Eye for eye means if someone takes my pencil then I should take theirs. But this only seems fair to a certain degree. If someone kills someone, they definatley need to serve time in jail and paying the price, but maybe they could turn their life around, so they shouldn't be killed.
Christina Baxter

Jeff Neuhaus said...

Hah alrighty Tom. My opinion for how justice should be carried out is an eye for an eye, and that a punishment should fit the crime. This won't solve it one hundred percent, but it would be more effective then letting a killer live. Killing the killer wouldn't be a crime, it'd be the justice system in effect. It would be punishment, not a murder. Relax, only the killer would die, as he rightfully deserved. If he is going to take someone's life, he should be prepared to have his own taken in return.

Have a great day to you too sir ahhaha

A.MacIvor said...

I do Think justice is served. I think people deserve justice only if they are truely soory and are really willing to change, because of their wrongdoing. There are different degrees of wrongs, and they do deserve different degrees of justice. I don't think someone who steals a candy bar should get the same punishment as a murderer. The murderer should get the death penalty and the person who stole should have to pay for the candy. An eye for an eye is fair. Justice is not always fair.

Samantha Hoyt said...

I believe there are many things that justice cannot help, but there are things that it can help as well. Like Jeff said when justice is served but people are shot in the meantime and no body is properly punished for the crime they had done, not a lot of justice is served. This can also bring in the aspect of God. God would say spare his life, there is a chance he can be saved. Many people would say give him the same punishment he gave us. He deserves it. And maybe he does. I think the "main" reason we don't have an eye for an eye is because of the god aspect. There is a part of me that says he deserves to be killed, but then there is a part of me that says what if that was me that would have done the crime, but what if I had a kid, and had decided that what I had done was dumb so I changed my ways. Nobody would ever listen to me. They wouldn't care. They wouldn’t even give me the time of day. They would say punish her for she has done wrong, and can never change, but there is a chance I very well could have.
Justice can very well be the government. The government tries to catch criminals. The government is here to create order, and decrease chaos. Without the government/justice chaos would be everywhere. The government/justice instills fear. The criminal does a crime in the hopes of not being caught because they know if they are there will be punishment. This is also the reason that people avoid doing crimes. So the government/justice can be quite helpful in reducing crime.
There probably are many more ways justice can be represented.
-Samantha Hoyt-

Samantha Hoyt said...

P.S. I also believe for example... if someone shoots my brother I shouldn't shoot theirs, because that would make me just as a bad as a person as they are.
-Samantha Hoyt-

Unknown said...

Yes I think justice is served for certain things and it is served to the good and bad. As far as I know about justice is not too much because ive never really thought about justice. Im 15 and never commited a crime so I wouldnt know how justice could be served to me all that well. I know you dont have to commit a crime to have an opinion about justice but i think it would be more of a better opinion.(?) However if someone committed a crime to a family member I feel that depending on the crime, they should be locked up or get what they deserve. Wow I guess I dont have a well developed opinion on this topic but yeah, hah. I think that an eye for an eye isnt always the right way to go but sometimes is a needed procedure because some people believe that if you kill someone for self defense then you shouldnt be killed also. Wow, I dont feel too intelligent at the moment.

Unknown said...

I do think crime could be said to have a lot of levels to it, so justice would as well. For instance there is a big difference between murder and, let's say stealing a toy car or something. I think that a person should be punished for doing something wrong, but no it doesn't solve crap. If I was a father of a child, and some person killed my son/daughter I wouldn't care as much if the government killed the guy, I'd want my child back. But that'll never happen, therefore, the murderer could never really serve justice. So there, I've said it.

Alex Morgano

Djakovic said...

Tom Ludwig, PHD.

I have a message to you:
I WILL NOT SETTLE DOWN!

If people settled down, you think they would BE at the point of justice they are today! You are just trying to think that the insane are JUST insane. We are knowledgable people that have seen things. Stay away from the beast inside of me! I'm true to my views, and there is nothing that can change that! For I am the uncorrupted! Now even the government or justice or some kind of power will make me change what makes me, ME! All those that have ever tried to disagree with the ideas that they believed in so much should just feel as unjust as the people that try to keep you at bay from your creativity! Enginuity! Anxiety! Insanity!
There is never a way out of justice! All you get is the government on your tail. Because once you screw up on something, you never forgive yourself. You don't need to kill, you don't need to lie! You just have to be true to your views and talk against the powerful forces of this world that makes ME the rebelious person I am, to be a sinner and unjust criminal to the "Big Man"!!!

You must survive! Let your ideas live! You have to learn the ropes, know how to just be dependant on yourself, know how to lie! For justice doesn't exist. Lies will get you far! What's government based on? Lies! But what are those lies composed of? Ideas of what they truly believed in! That is the only injustice there is when you aren't aloud to say your ideas from the world if your books will just end up getting burned, knowledge and ideas DESTROYED!

Ignorance is just a lie to make people think that they are more powerful, more knowledgable, more just! I think never of this to happen. The future is now, and the present has already happened!

Inasanity, rebelion, knowledge!'

All 3 of these keep you alive!

I argue with both Tom and Jeff!

JUST you wait, AMERICA, JUST you wait...

You can't keep the answers away from us forever!!!!!

Danielle Bruno said...

I think sometimes justice is served and sometimes it isnt. depending on what they do there is a differant punishment. sometimes they do not give enough punishment and sometimes they give too much punishment. justice to me is when the right punishment is given to the right crime and the victem or the victems family is secure so they have compensateed for the trama and/or loss. in other words the crimimal gets his cummupins and the family and victem gets reassurance. Danielle 4/5

Danielle Bruno said...

BTW Cummupins
(thanks Justin Evans)
Love That Word

Tom Ludwig, PHD said...

Djakovic, quiet down there.

You are not insane.

You need to settle down.

Djakovic said...

NEVER... That's all I gotta say.

Rebelion live on!
Justice has died!

Djakovic said...

I challenge you Tom.

Justice... Is it true? OR NOT?!

Djakovic said...

I think it's not!

Tom Ludwig, PHD said...

YOU SPELLED "REBELLION" WRONG!

Djakovic said...

REBELLION! REBELLION! REBELLION!
REBELLION! REBELLION! REBELLION!
REBELLION! REBELLION! REBELLION!

BRING IT.

Tom Ludwig, PHD said...

Djakovic, do you know me?
Do I know you?
Why are you so restless?
What you need to do is cool down.

TayA said...

I think justice is always served even if someone has been wrong because someone put it on them, i still think they deserve justice. I think there is different degrees of wrong and i think they do deserve different forms of justice because if there crime was minor then they get small justice. I think a eye for a eye means what you see and what someone else sees and justice is the right doing of somebody else.

Unknown said...

i think that there is wayyyyy too much arguing on this blog and though i understand that that is what she wanted... meeehhhh!!!!.... cont... i think that it needs to stop because they all just need to take a chill pill!!! u argue about the most silly subjects and if its really important like last week then yoou have to know that those are the same arguments that have been argued for pretty much since the begining of time and that no matter what you are not going to find an answer.

Unknown said...

yes.
yes.
yes.
(btw that answers the ?s.)
the difference is that mehhhhh!! kitty meow sandy pandy nandy pandy doody meow
... cont.. an eye for an eye is like if u steal something then you get your hand cut off which happens in certain countries and actuall justice is just to both sides. for example if you steal a candybar then you would have to both pay for it and return it.

Djakovic said...

Way to use what I said on the last blog, "Puppyluvr2159"

I soon realized that no one cares about that crap!

Djakovic said...

There's more to arguments than meets the eye..

Unknown said...

I think that justice is served in different ways. I think that justice is served equally. Problems are made by everyone, and in that case justice is served, when you make those mistakes. Someone who had done wrong does deserve justice, they still can go back, and try to forget about the past and make a new beginning if they try.
There is different types of wrongs, there is a wrong in which that it doesn't hurt anyone that much.On the other side there is a wrong that hurts people not only mentally but physically. I think those types of wrong don't deserve much justice.
I think that justice, hurts not only you but other people. Or in other cases helps you. I think justice gives equally, to the people involved.

Unknown said...

oh, and gibsonluver43 is katie.m 4/5

Mrs. P said...

Interesting discussion we have going on here. Tom, nice to see you sharing your views. The topic of justice is an interesting one. I was raised with an eye-for an eye mentality. This is part of my religious background. But, I am not going to bring religion into the discussion. We live in a country that works toward acheiving justice. However, if someone in my family was taken from me by another person's recklessness, anger, or selfishness, hunting to catch that person and take their life will only prove a bandaide on a very deep wound. After the moment has passed, would justice still carry the same weight? No. We are instinctive by nature. Moreover, we are also self-serving. However, it is our mind that is supposed to usurp our instincts when the world provides challenges in a civilized world.

Do not under estimate the power of background knowldege in justice. Often the place and environment we are immersed in dictates how we respond.

Lindsay Jakubowski said...

Justice is served good or bad. It can be good for some people and not for others. Some people will get it and others will not. No i don't think someone deserves justice if they did something wrong. Only people who do good should deserve justice. I think if you are an all around good person then you deserve justice. If you do something bad but someone else does something worse then the person who did worse should get a worse punishment or less justice. If you did a minor crime you should not get in as much trouble as someone who murdered someone. An eye for an eye is saying if you do something to someone your getting the same thing done to you. Justice is less of a punishment then an eye for an eye

Unknown said...

Justice is diffrent depending on whose prespective you are looking from. To one person a punishment might seem just but to anouther it might seem cruel or unusual. Everyones interprutation of jsutice is diffrent because people think diffrently then others.... thats what makes us unique. I prsonally believe that after a wrong doing that it depends on the sevarity of the crime that enables them to recieve justice. If someone ran a red light I think that they deserve a little justice because even though what they did was wrong and could have caused an accident, no one was hurt and everything is fine, but on the other hand if someone murdered anouther then i think they should be punished completly because what they did was so terrible that they should be brought completly to justice.

nferrier said...

I believe justice is when the right thing has been done. That a good deed has occured. In my words justices is whenever someone does something wrong like brakeing the law that they should get in trouble for it. I do beileve justace is served most the time but alot of times when people may murder when get a less sentence then someone who has stolen. Some things we do as people can pass by but others shouldn't be overlooked..

christinalayne27 said...

I believe that sometimes justice can be served, but not all the time. For exapmle with the O.J. Simpson trial (although I can't say that it for sure happenned) he was proven to be innocent and then he goes and you hear about if i did it this is how it happenned and that just leads me to belive he did it and is just disappointing that he got out of being guilty for that. Also, you see a lot of time people who you think should be in jail longer or shouldn't have bail for the severity of the crime.

I believe that there need to be consquences for every crime. I don't think that the consequences should be all the same though. People who do just horrible crimes should have worse of a consequences than someone who just jay walked.

Yes there are different degrees for the crimes committed.Like, if you killed someone then you could get life but if you have a lesser crime then I believe that you should deffinately not have to get the same crime as the person who killed

An eye for an eye and justice are extremely different. An eye for an eye would be like if you killed someone then you get killed. justice would mean that you did something wrong and you are being punished. When I think of these the death penalty comes to mind because to a lot of people it is just justice but to me I see it as an eye for an eye which i am personally against.

CHRISTINA LAYNE!

AHetzel.bhs said...

I think that justice is served where it needs to be. Justice is not only an overated thing, but it is something to be taken seriously.People sometimes work through the night to keep cities safe and we as people need to help as much as we can.
-Adam H. 6-7

Anonymous said...

Is justice ever served...no. Think of it this way. If someone were to just go out and shoot your brother, or sister, or mother, or father or anyone close to you, how does that feel. Sure, you can believe for in an eye for and eye and go and shoot that person, but does that mean that the person you loved is going to come back? No. The fact of the matter is that there will alyaws be a hole there, an empty space left behind by that person. Sure their attacker is dead and you may feel a little bit better seeing that, but you will always feel empty. As to if anyone deserves as close to justice that we humans can serve, yes. If something does something wrong, than they should be punished. That is how society has always worked, and unless the U.S. turns into a eutopian society, that is how it will work in the future. For example, the Mayans filed punishments such as hefty fines, having all of a person's possesions sold on auction, or being sold into slavery or possibly getting thrown into a jail for
different lengths of time. The Romans held their games, facing prisoners against lions. Humans are instinctive to go for that "eye-for-an-eye" belief, and that is not going to stop. I do believe that there are different degrees of "justice". As I said before, the mayans punished people at different levels, and we still do today. And the difference between eye for and eye and justice - eye for an eye is more focused on revenge. People want the offender to feel the same pain that the victim felt, and they feel this way out of anger. Justice is more fair, and has a set of guidelines that is followed for the most part. I'm sure that I could dig up hundreds of court cases that contradict that, but those are few and far between. Justice is based on laws and not feelings.

-A. Muir

ctrussa said...

I don't think justice is served when our goverment sends someone to jail and in an odd amount of years later they are able to plea their case again and possibly get out of jail. I think that jail does not cure the criminal mind instead it fuels it with even more hatred from being inside of the wretched place.

Natalie Esson said...

For certain crimes, justice can fully be served, but when someone is murdered by another, there is no way to find justice. No one can make up for the death of another. Even though a murderer deserves to die, the death penalty will not solve anything, nor will anything else. Once a person is dead, they're dead. There's no serving justice there. I believe in an eye for an eye, but only if the case is fully proven, with absolutely no doubt. A killer deserves to die, and that's the bottom line. They should expect death when they decide to take another's life, like Jeff said. I do not believe that it really solves anything though. Justice is never served when it comes death, it cannot be, and it never will be.


P.S.: Haha, Dragon, what's with you? I'm pretty sure rebellion has nothing to do with the blog. :) And Tom, leave Dragon alone! haha. I'm pretty sure people have found enjoyment in attacking you and arguing with you, Jeff. ahhhaa.

Unknown said...

I think justice is served in the long run. Some people call it Karma. I call it getting your commuppance.:). Some call it the work of God. Most people beleive in some kind of justice. There is that lone few, that beleive that there isn't any justice. These people, often lower class, never will be happy with thier lives. I think justice takes time to happen and will happen not immetiately, but in a couple of years.

Anonymous said...

I think justice can only be served to a certain extent. At times you may feel as though justice is served but your problems may not go away completely. You may be served justice but it’s not going to solve every one of your problems. I definitely think someone deserves justice for the wrong they have done, depending on how serious something they did was. I mean, if you kill someone, you better go through the serious consequences. (death) Now if you stole something little or the crime was not so serious, your consequences shouldn’t be something like death, but justice should still be served. There are different degrees of wrong and different degrees of justice. Like I said before, killing someone should have a different degree of justice than something smaller and a little less serious. In term of an eye for an eye, if someone kills another person, they should be killed too.

-Erica Jacks 1*

Unknown said...

I think that sometimes justice is served, and other times its not. Sometimes people think justice has been served when it is to brutal or not enough. I do believe some people deserve justice. But only to a certain extent. There are different levels of wrong that can be committed and must be dealt with in different ways with different forms of justice. The difference between justice and an eye for an eye is sometimes seen as different and sometimes the same thing. I believe justice shouldn't be an eye for an eye. But others do believe this such as the people that want people put to death after a murder. When this occurs maybe justice such as counseling and jail time is in order but a life for a life? They have people who care about them too.
-Rienerth

Anonymous said...

i think that justice is servied when someone breaks the law but when no one reports the crime justice cant be served some times people find loop wholes in the system and get around there punishment which is never fair. i think eye for an eye is a god thing if people killed thosands of people they should be killed to they new there would be consequnces for there actions i think they should only be killed though if they are not going to sit in jail all there life feeling bad for what they did because that can be worse than death but death is good for the crazy people who would do it again of they got the chance the people who would feel no remorse

kourtney thomas

Anonymous said...

I belive that justice can be served but depending on how bad a crime, the amount of justice will vary. Although, somebody may do an extreamly bad thing, they still deserve a little bit of justice, I think.
Yes, I think that they really do because, in some cases, they have a reason for their doing and even if they don't, something down the line made them snap or be the way they are.
I belive there are different degrees of wrongs and they should get different degrees of justice because someone who stole one small thing from a store is not even close to the pain of a muder.
An eye for an eye is just pay back meaning that if someone does one thing to you, you will do something similar back to them. As where justice is just if you do something to someone you have to pay by your time not by someone elses.
-A. STertzbach-

Unknown said...

I believe justice is served because if someone does something bad they do get punished for what they have done.And yes a person that does a wrong she be put justice upon because they have done something to harm someone or something in any way shape or form and should have something done to them so they don't just get away with it. Yes there are many different degrees of wrongs that are committed and they should get a different punishment for what they did whether it's murder or a speeding ticket the worse the crime the worse the punishment. An eye for an eye means that what ever they did to someone else the exact same thing will be done to them. And justice is just getting a fine or jail time just like a punishment like when a parent grounds their kid.

K mcnamara said...

When I think of justice it makes me think that someone did something against the law and they get the correct punishment for it. Justice has gotten a lot less dramatic over time. For example if you go and steal candy back in the old days they would chop off your hand. Now I think that that is an overreaction. It’s not fair punishment. If you steal something, then you should have to go apologize and pay them back for the candy bar that seems more reasonable. It’s a little different if it is a reoccurring thing because then you are not learning you lesson. It’s also different if it’s something big like a car or a flat screen TV. There are many levels of justice and many different ways justice can be served

Unknown said...

Justice is a matter of opinion. I believe that justice can be served better in some cases then in others...for example if someone murders another person there is a whole aftermath from that one act. The victim's family and friends would be devastated and people that lived around the area probably wouldn't feel as safe, even if they murderer received justice and was put in prison. In that case, justice can't make the family’s/friend's lives better, it can only put away the killer or give them the death penalty. If someone did something small though, like littering, a fine would be paid and all would be forgotten. I believe that if you commit murder, rape, or a serious crime like that, the death penalty should be enforced. If you feel that you have the right to take or destroy someone's life then you should have to pay the same consequence.

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Unknown said...

Justice is something that should be and usually is fair and different for different crimes. I think that there are different degrees of justice because there are different degrees of wrongful acts. if one person kills and another person litters, they shouldn't be punished the same way. Everyone deserves justice. An eye for an eye is a form of justice in my opinion. An example of this is if someone steals 100 dollars, they should have to give 100 dollars back. That would be justice. An eye for an eye isn't always the right move though. If someone were to beat up my mom, the law shouldn't require that person to have their mom beat up. Different offenses deserve different punishments.

Unknown said...

I feel justice depends on the person receiving the payment for it, in other words, justice is a matter of opinion. I feel that to some, justice seems served through punishment, but to the one being punish they might feel punishment is unjust. So, justice may or may not be served depending on the perspective and ideas of the viewer. I think if a wrong has been done to someone, the problem should be fixed or at least prevented in the future, because if someone got hurt from another's wrong, something needs to be done. Different degrees of wrong should have different consequences I think in most cases. If someone stole a pencil from someone else, they should not go to jail for life, but if murder is committed there should most-likely receive a much bigger consequence, than the stolen pencil. An eye for and eye, and a tooth for a tooth is giving back to the person exactly what they gave to you, so if you get a black eye from someone, then you give that person a black eye in the same eye, the same way. This is like exact and direct revenge. Justice is fixing an issue, preventing it from happening again, and usually a different punishment that is agreeable or seems accurate to the court or judge.
Holly Sarazin

Steven D. said...

Justice is served by normal people. The court system hands out the correct punishment, but the people don't even think twice about responding really give out justice. The courts may want to do something horrible to someone who deserves something horrible, but that's known as cruel and unusual punishment and is unconstitutional. Justice leads to more justice. If a man gets illegal revenge on another man, the courts get revenge and throw the man in jail. Anyone deserves justice. Does "and justice for all" ring a bell? Justice has infinite degrees, which can be said to do wrongs deserve justice. Any wrong should be justiced in some form. If a man kills another, he may get thrown in jail, or lethally injected. If a dog craps on my lawn, his owner will say bad dog or something. Both punishments are justice to some degree. Going off my example, different degrees of crime deserve different degrees of justice. If a dog craps on my lawn, they don't get lethally injected and if a man kills another, he doesn't get scolded by court to not do it again and then be free. An eye for a eye is the old way of doing things. I push you down the stairs, you push me down them, we're even. Justice is if I push you down the stairs, I'll get charged with assault and get hauled off to jail for a month or three.

D. Jindra said...

Justice is severed most time. Sometimes there are times when the jury gets it wrong but our system works mostly. There are different degrees of wrong and there needs to be more punishments for those who do the most wrong. An eye for an eye is not justice. It is just doing the same wrong back to them

Unknown said...

Sometimes people think they are bringing justice but are actually doing the opposite. There are many different types. If someone kills someone then they get a long time in jail. If someone steals your candy and eats it then what are you to do? steal there's? No. That's the wrong way to do it but some justice is like that.

Anonymous said...

i think that justice is only served only sometimes but it usally it doesnt. i think things are dragged on for longer then needed and people never really get justice.

People dont deserve the justice that is put on them but they make the decisions in their life and what they do is their fault.

But if their is justice i think that the worse thing they do the more justice they deserve and the lesser thing they do the less justice.

An eye for and eye is when u get the peron back...? and justice is when u punish them.

Eliott Golod


And Djakovic chilll!

eliott golod said...

i think that justice is only served only sometimes but it usally it doesnt. i think things are dragged on for longer then needed and people never really get justice.

People dont deserve the justice that is put on them but they make the decisions in their life and what they do is their fault.

But if their is justice i think that the worse thing they do the more justice they deserve and the lesser thing they do the less justice.

An eye for and eye is when u get the peron back...? and justice is when u punish them.


Eliott Golod
And Djakovic chilll!

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ashirilla said...

I think that justice is served sometimes and other times it's not. It all depends on how you view the situation. People have different opinions and some people see justice all the time while others don't. For example, if you are a criminal and the judge gave you a life time in prison because you murdered five people the criminal would think that justice is not being served and they are being treated unfairly. If you were a person who is related to the victims of the murder then you would think justice is definitley being served and the criminal deserves what he got. It depends on your view of the situation and the role you play in it.
I think criminals deserve whatever punishment they get. If they didn't then the world would be a complete disaster. The key is, if you don't want to get in trouble just do do things that will get you in trouble.
I think there are different levels justice. If you do something like steal a candy bar from the Dollar General that's not as bad as stabbing someone to death. It just depends on what you do and how severe is it and that should decide the level of justice you get.
An eye for an eye and justice are different. An eye for an eye is getting what you did in return. For example, If you killed someone then you deserve to be killed. That is what an eye for an eye is. Justice is not as bad. They make you pay for what you did but they don't do what you did back to you.
-Alex Shirilla

Jen said...

Justice can be served when you use it. You use justice whenever you do something right, or just, in that matter. I think that yes, people do deserve some justice for the wrong that they do, but only to a certain point. They do deserve a punishment. Justice should be put in so that there is not any cruel or unusual punishment. I think that yes, there are definitly different degrees of wrong doing, and yes, they do deserve different degrees of justice. You can't give a murderer the same punishment as someone who was speeding on the road. It's unfair. As for an eye for an eye, that is more like revenge. Justice is giving the person a punishmentfor what they did wrong. Sometimes they can be the same thing though. It is like if your punishment is like revenge, or getting back on the person.

Jennifer Sens

zack said...

Almost anyone when you say justice you do think of the justice league or whoever but why wouldnt that be considered an eye for an eye. Like killing, people say violence is never the answer and justice sometimes demands violence. So what should be the justice to death in which it depends becasue some people see it as more important people who are killed should have there killers also killed while a person who kills one random person could be sent away for 25 years. this is also like the last blog about power because people who have more power normally demand more justice. For example Lee harvey oswald was killed by a man is his killing of JFK justified?

tori-pace said...

I think that there are different levels of justice. People should be punished differently for different crimes. If you kill someone on purpose, then you should have a big punishment. If you steal say a pack of gum, then you shouldn't have as bad a punishment. I think that there shouldn't be punishment of death though. I believe that only God can take a life. Although people think that one crime is worse than another,the Bible says that every sin is the same. A sin is a sin. An eye to eye is wrong. I think that just beacuse someone does something to you doesn't mean that you need to do something back.

kk said...

Fine, I will finally agree to the justice of the people and decide to be... ugh... NORMAL and CHILL.

I will agree to a days of silence.
I will no longer be rebelious.
I will never again talk about the government or religious beliefs.

I'll see where that gets me...

kk said...

I will never talk of the government again... INSANITY CAN BE CONTROLLED!

Brittany W. said...

I say yes to all the questions because I believe ALL wrongs should be justified.

- B. Walters

BIG J said...

i believe that jutice should be served to thoughs that break the rules. I do believe in an eye for an eye, also i believe in u should get any punishment that comes your way for wrong doings. My idea of justice is totally differnt then wht others are, i think that a slap on the wrist for murder is unexceptable, a live for a live, i think they should bring the death penelty back and hire very good judges to keep bad people off the streets and not in our houses

Kath said...

I think justice is served, but it depends on your point of view . Someone who is punished for doing something wrong, even something small not involving the law, may be unfair to that person, but fair to the others who did not do it. For example, my cousin was murdered. When you see cases on t.v. about murders, you may not care what happens to the person who committed the crime (depending), but it definitely changes when it is your family member or friend. I was four years old at the time and did not exactly understand everything going on, but now looking at it, I understand things more and have my own opinion about justice on those sort of issues.

Many types of wrongs are committed and they deserve, in my opinion, different degrees of justice. For example, if someone murders some one and another person steals a pack of gum from a store, they should not get the same punishment. Say this murderer goes to jail for life, that doesn't mean they should get the same punishment because they both committed a crime. There are different degrees, therefore there should be different punishments or consequences.

I think in certain cases people so deserve justice, whether it is good or bad. If someone does something minor, and they don;t get in huge trouble for it, that is okay, but if someone kills another person, they shouldn't be let off without a punishment.

I think an eye for an eye can be more violent than justice. If someone hits a person and the person hit hits the other person back, that is more an eye for eye situation. Justice is more of a punishment type of situation. Justice is, in my opinion, not violent, as an eye for an eye can be and is mostly violent.

Nick Underwood said...

Yes,justice is served most of the time.Although in sometimes it justice isn't served.People deserve justice that is put on them, for instince, Saddam Hussein killed a lot of people and when he was caught,he was hung. Yes, there are different degrees of wrongs and those people deserve them. Like if someone steals a tv, they wouldn't get the death penalty, but they would get some type of punishment for it.An eye for an eye means that whatever crime someone commits, they get that crime commited against them and justice is getting the proper punishment for the type of crime they commited.

Samantha Jordan said...

I honestly believe that true justice will never be served. In the end there will always be somebody who's on the posititve side... and somebody who's on the negative side. It's never a win-win situations here.

But I do believe that everyone deserves some degree of justice. We all make mistakes at some point. Afterall, we're only human. We all have greed, selfish needs, or at least some form of "evil" within. It can't be avoided. Therefore we must accept our faults and realized that everyone can mess up once in awhile. Some more then others.

Depending on the crime or wrong you commited there should be a punishment equal to that. A person who steals food or talks out of line should not be sentenced to years in jail or have their life taken. Actually... in my opinion, nobody has the right to kill another human being (not even an unborn child). You don't have that right to choose for someone else.

An eye for an eye follow the exact saying, "treat me as you would like to be treated." In an eye for an eye, once you are wronged, you can do the same back to that person. You get what you give. In justice they are more nicer about it... and in worst case situations, they might even give you a worse punishment then what you would recive in an eye for an eye. :/

- Samantha Jordan

Unknown said...

No one can really see eye to eye on justice. Someones description of justice is different from what i think justice is. So really no can see eye to eye on justice.
Even if a w is put one someone, i think that they still deserve justice.
Even for the people who do really bad things. Like commit murder and what not. They still deserve their justice. I think that the death penalty is wrong. I believe in God and i think God should choose when someone dies, i mean he's the one who created us. We as people can't make a decision like that.
Anyway it kind of seems like justice is unfair because if everyone has different ideas of justice then how is it fair at all. Sure you can come to an agreement, but you could still think otherwise.
*Emily from first period

marnakeb said...

i think that some people confuse justice with revenge. justice is when you always do the right thing but bad things happen to you anyway. revenge is when a wrong has been done to you and you want that wrong done back at the person responsible. nobody deserves justice if they want revenge. i think thats the difference between 'an eye for an eye' and justice. 'An eye for an ee' is referring to revenge, which is never necessary, but justice is just what a person deserves.

Unknown said...

My definition of justice is different then others. I believe that justice is not usually served and maybe never will be. Different parts of the world have a different way of serving justice. If a wrong is put on someone I believe they deserve justice. Obviously a person who steals something does not deserve the death penalty or even jail. An eye for an eye means revenge in my eyes. Like doing the same exact thing back. For example if someone kills someone they should be killed, which isn't wrong but not justice either. Justice would be police men not tazering young boys or girls because there holding a bat and won't put it down after threatening someone. Justice is not when someone commits a terrible crime but only gets 10 years. What this world needs is justice.

-marissa. 6/7 period.

HK said...
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HK said...

Justice, just like other words throughout the years they have been flipped around, manipulated for others uses and tend to not hold much meaning to the truth. Covered up and used for our own use is how we have grown to become at least most people that is. People in this period of time are some what selfish. The economy is in a down spiral and for some this has drastically changed some citizens life styles. Justice has been used from the good and evil side. Justice has made mistakes and is NOT flawless. This is so because we have created justice and as we all know we are not flawless. Justice as I have seen can ruin the pure hearted lives of people and cage in the destructive unbearable murderers. What about the good people justice has accidentally caged in? Is this fair for the people who have done nothing wrong but to be in simply the wrong place at the wrong time.
The eye for an eye has been pulled and used by religions such as Baptists. Some would rather die then have justice on their side and make them suffer the death row, as their name gets closer to their name to be terminated. So in this thought, is justice better than an eye for an eye? Is justice perhaps cruel?
Hruby

kelly klass said...

My idea of justice can be served in both good and bad ways. Justice is never equal to one another. Everyone who has done something wrong, still deserves justice. Even thought justice is served , some people still dont learn from their mistakes and they still go out and committ crimes. So justice will never fully solve anything because you can never go back and chage the past, it stays how it is and you learn from your mistakes.
If America would use the an " eye for an eye" system , i think that there would be less crimes and people would think twice before they do something. Its harsh but it would work better .

Vinh said...

I don't think justice can be fully served today. The quality of being just means to be fair and reasonable, so if someone killed another person in a car accident that wasn't the killer's fault, then does that "killer" deserve to die? It may not seem like the right thing to do, but it's the just thing. You kill someone then you should die, too, right? If justice was served completely in every situation then there would be about twice as many people dead or injured from a car accident.

There are different degrees of wrongs committed because for something as small as running into someone to have to be punished by being punched in the face is completely wrong. If justice is to be served, then it should be done accordingly in a fair and reasonable way. Oh, and the death penalty is a dumb idea. Why take that person's life away. Prison basically takes away all your privileges to life so what's the point of killing them.

An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. If you murder a person, then who decides to murder you? Surely no one would want the blood of that person on their hands. Justice is just a civilized version of an eye for an eye. Less harsh and no cruel and unusual punishment. Though their major difference is the humanity of the punishment, they basically have their roots in revenge.
And about the way I see justice, I completely agree with Dragan. Justice is an illusion created by man to try and justify revenge. That's what i think at least.

~Vinh Trinh

Unknown said...

justice is making something right that is wrong.

emcnamee said...

I believe that justice can be served depending on your opinion. I believe most justice is served fairly. People should get different punishments for different crimes. I do think it is unfair that people from different states get different justices for the same thing.
-Erin McNamee

Unknown said...

i think justice cannot be served but i do believe people do deserve justice. If they do something wrong,then they deserve it. People should be responsible for there actions. In any crime the person who commits it, certainly deserves justice. Why did they do it? they did out of there own actions, therefore deserve justice. People believe giving someone justice is doing what they did to you back to them. no thats the wrong thing to do, its complete opposite.

shannon said...

when i think i justice, i think of the crimson chin from fairly odd parents, because he was always saving the world from justice, so i believe justice is a crime that bad people do, like criminals.

4-5 shannon.

Kelly C. said...

Justice is both served and not served at the same time. Justice is served to many people all over the world every day, but overall, i don't think most people receive justice; although they might deserve it, its not always served to them. I think that people do deserve justice in a lot of cases, but not all. For example, if a boy beats up kids at school every day, and gets away with it, and then one day a person beats up the boy for beating up other children, justice should not be served to him for being beaten up because he had it coming. But if someone is being beaten severely just because of their race, I think that justice should be served to that person, and the person who beat them up to get in trouble, get punished, etc. So it depends on the case. Yes there are different degrees of wrongs committed, and sometimes they will deserve different degrees of justice, sometimes not, again depending on the case. Sometimes if a high degree of unjustness is put on someone, either: little just will be served to them, they will be served a lot of just, or even no just at all. Just is served and not served in different cases throughout the world, and sometimes it will be fair, sometimes unfair. I think that the difference between an eye for an eye and justice is that an eye for an eye is doing exactly what someone does to you back to them, and in many cases this is unjust. Such as if someone goes and shatters the whole front windshield of someone else's car, and the person who owned the car knows who did it and goes and shatters their car windshield intentionally, thats an eye for an eye. Justice is different than that, because its not just to do something to another person just because they did that thing to you.

-Kelly C. 4-5

Unknown said...

I believe that justice is sometimes served. I think when someone does something wrong like killing somebody that they deserve to go to jail. Yes different degrees of wrongs deserve different degrees of justice because you can cheat on something get caught and fail but when you kill someone you go to jail. You don't deserve to go to jail just because you cheat. The differnece between and eye for an eye and justice is if someone rapes somebody and you followed the eye for an eye rule then that person would get raped but by going along with justice you'd just go to jail or something different.
C Sims

Marina Stojanovic said...

I think justice can be used for good and bad things, it just depends on the situation. It can be served but that doesn't mean that the person has learned its lesson. Everyone should deserve justice even if they are wrong or guilty. They still should have the same treatment as the innocent person. Yes, there are different degrees of wrongs committed. For example if someone kills someone, and another person steels a candy bar, then the person who killed someone should be sentenced to jail more than the person who stole the candy bar because that crime was so serious. The difference between eye for eye and justice is that an eye for an eye is when someone kills someone you know, and then you kill that person. Or if someone cuts your arm off then that person will have their arm cut off. Justice is having to pay for your mistakes like if you killed someone then your punishment would be to go to jail.

Erica Kilroy said...

1)yes look at all the prisoners in jail and how many kids get grounded
2)no not EVERY time
3)yes
4)yes b/c if you killed someone you dont nesisarily need to be killed yourself

Erica Kilroy said...

P.S.you 2 guys need to relax and take a chill pill. this is getting a little bit ridiculous. K?
(try some deep breathing ;D)
ahahaha

Logan said...

Justice is served not always all the time though. Certain people do deserve different punishment. the punishment should fit the crime. there are diffferent degrees of wrong but that does not mean just because stealing may not be as bad as killing does not mean it's not wrong

c hovan34 said...

justice is sometimes severed,because if someone does wrong thenthey should be punished for their wrong doing am I right.Also tere should be different levels of because there are different levels of crime such as stealing from a store to killing someone.

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Unknown said...

Hey hey hey! Guess whos back in the saddle again! Mrs. Perrin, can I still respond to the blogs like Tom?

Unknown said...

justice. the eye for an eye thing is very useful. why should we let a person live who killed multiple people. make them a drain on the public? many prisoners live much better in prispn than some people out here. at least make them work. make them do something useful for society. work them dawn till dusk with only 2hours of sleep