Use this opportunity to help answer each other's questions about the multi-genre essay. Do not give each other answers:(
Feel free to ask for revision help.
Feel free to ask about a specific genre.
Feel free to ask for opinions on word choice.
Do not ask for answers or for someone to write for you.
Do not ask for someone to think for you.
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1 – 200 of 658 Newer› Newest»I need help on the collage, im doing it for hero-the journey, what should i even do, i dont even know. What should the pictures be about?
wow am i the only one who needs help... that make me sad...
Hey david, try getting some pictures on some of the places decribed in the book, also try finding from movies that have heros in them, so then in your paragraph, you can relate them back into the book.
If I were you david, first pick your topic. If you're doing the Hero from group 4 (I presume because you said picture) then think about the hero in the book, and compare that hero to another hero, and what assets they both share, and then put that into your work :)
hey, would be alright to have a two page brochure? i cant get the text on the back of the first page
I guess you could tape them together... but I can't see why you can't just print one side flip the paper and print the next side. Or you could take contruction paper and just glue/tape printed paper onto it (But don't use glue NAte, remember what Fabich said about guys and glue XD).
By-The-By if anyone wishes me to proof read/edit I can... just email me at dglaeser@verizon.net. ~Thanks
heyy david. don't worry your not the only one that needs help. I'm also doing the collage and i have my pictures, but i do not understand what i need to put in the paragraph. can anyone help?
Michelle, explain why you put the pictures you put in there, why do you think the picture conected with war? And then just explain all that in proper paragraph form!
so since i am doing a character,i basically say that's what he carried? or do i like explain each item?
Hey, I am doing a magazine article for Character, and I chose Mary Anne because I basically love her. =) But, first I wrote it all from a professional perspective, and me and Mrs. Perrin agreed it sounded off becuase it was from the same view point of the book, so I switched it to first person, from Mary Annes p.o.v. After reading what I had I wasn't really sure I liked it so much, becuase I couldn't put in words how I think she felt, etc. So, do you (anybody's opinion is welcome and wanted) think doing it from Mark's perspective would work?
Michelle: I'd explain each item and the ideas behind the whole picture. Not just what the person carried but also his/her personality and how that's shown through the pictures!
Emily: If you wanted to do it from Mark's point of veiw you'd have to also add his feelings into it, but I think it would be a better p.o.v because Mary Anne disappeared and Mark is somewhat still alive. I t would be easier to set up as an article too because you can have a theme to it (like a broken heart etc.)
Daisy,
Yeah I've been working on it for some time now and I'm really liking how it's turning out. We're going to Canada for the weekend and we had to drop off my beloved puppy at the kennel earlier today and I'm absolutly heart-broken, even though we're picking him up monday morning, I think my feelings are really helping me write from Mark's point of view lol. Once it is done, could you revise it for me? I'm a bit nervous about whether it will sound too I'm-just-teling-a-story instead of a magazine article, I want the perfect balance but I'm not sure if I cut it too clost or not.
Also, this is the link for my video portion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQeTis3aKU4
go check it out and tell me what you think!! Not that I could change it anyways, becuase I have to edit it at Cass's, but I'm really proud of it and want to show everybody lol.
hey guys, quick question:
when we're "putting it all together" the order that we put it in is up to us, right??
Yes, I believe the order is up to us, just make sure Mrs. Perrin can tell the difference between all of the genras
Emily: Of course I'll proof read it! Just send it to my e-mail: dglaeser@verizon.net. The video was nice by the way, I remember seeing them all before but it makes sense now in the way you put them together, just make sure you explain them :).
Hanan: I think so, because in mine it only make sense for my essay to go in the back, and it doesn't say anything on the rubric... so I guess you can put them in any order, just make sure that it fits what your whole putting it together theme is! :)
Collage--anything that has to do with the hero journey should show the journey and the steps. Be sure in the explanation for the collage that you explain how the images show the journey.
The order--you, the author, needs to own the order. Look at how you think the flow, content, message is best sent. Each project should be different because you are all thinking beings born out of individuality.
Mark's point of view--that could be cool. Make sure, it doesn't take on O'Brien's voice.
Thanks Daisy for all of your advice.
Enjoy your weekend. I'll continue to check in. You can do this and you can do this well!!!:)
Thanks for answering back :) Yes, there's a certain order I want it in, to help make it all come together. Haha Mrs. P, that last line you wrote sounded like a cheerleader!
Okay, I need some help here.
I think I'm going to do a graph for the Change genre. Do I physically have to create the graph, and make my own data up? Or can I use some data/graph that I found online and tweak it to make it fit for my project?
Thanks, and good luck to all.
Markus
I am doing an interview of a character, how many questions would be sufficent?
Markus:
You can use graphs offline I think, but you can't just copy them and then change a few things, you have to make your own graph and then you can use the data from the online graph (make sure to cite your sources).
Jacob:
How many questions does it take for the person reading to get the whole veiw on the person you're talking about? I would have at least 10 solid good ones.
Hello, this is Tyler. On the things I carry project I link everything I carry to one big story rather than little ones. Is this okay?
hey, im drawing a picture for the war in group 4. and im trying to explain this quote tim obrien said in my explation, "Often they were exaggerated, or blantant lies, but it was a way of bringing body and soul back together, or a way of making new bodies for the souls to inhabit."I said, here we can see that even though the stories that the soilders told were often untrue they reunited the dead soilder's spiritual being, the traits that made the characters who they are to thier body or a way or producing new soilders to plant the spiritual being of the dead soilders into. Does that sound okay?
tyler, yes that is exactly what
you are supposed in the essay of the things you carry.
hey its Perkins Im doing a letter toi the editor on war and i have two different letters each on different views on war. Is this a good ideoa or not?
Hey its tony i have a question on how to start the things you carry... how would we start that off? like for my first sentence i just put "I carry the physical pain on me." than i go on to explain what that is, is that fine?
tony, you start
off with a story, then
as you write your piece relate everything you carry back to the story.
thanx... marrisa but what kind of story?
your welcome,
like for example i said i carried
a neutral personality and i carry traits and personalities of both my mom and dad. think about something you carry and the story behind that item and why you carry it.
personal? like "Last week ago i injured my back..." than explain, and relate it back on how spraining my back relates to my physical and emotional pain
heyy daisy...or whoever of course :) uhh im still confused on the paragraph for the collage. Like my person is kiowa because i just loved him for some reason. And i have like pictures of what he carries. i already glued them down and everything, right...but i don't really understand what to do exactly for like explaining idk i just dont get it. hopefully someone can explain??
hmmm,maybe but you could
have a hard time with relating that the the physical things you carry, think more on the lines of your personality or something speical someone gave to you and the story of why they gave it to you .
michelle, you explain why
kiowa is siginicant to the novel and his role in the novel and his impact on others .
see tony, i don't understand like that part either. How can everything you carry go along with one story? I'm sure your life isn't just pain so i don't see why make the story just about pain. Like you do have happiness, i assume, and i just don't understand how to relate everything to go along with one story, let alone trying to think of a perfect story to choose.
marissa, thanks. but do i like explain each item like daisy said? or no? and do i say like" i think blah blah blah" Also, if i dont do that do I pretend i'm kiowa or o'brian talking? Sorry for sooo many questions!!
tony, or whoever, wonderin about the story, i'm not exactly sure how to describe it, but started mine out, as if i were on a bike ride. and then it was kind of explaining my life as if it were a bike ride. naw mean? lol.
-J$
and thanks for the extensive amount of info daisy. lol after i asked it i realized that's exactly what mrs. perrin would say. thanks though.
no problemm=), and yes you
explain all of the items, it is
from your point of view, so use I and say how each item makes the person who they are and what role they played in the book,
Tyler: As long as the things you carry link back to you it makes sense, like in the opening chapter the authoer keeps going back to Jimmy Cross.
Marissa: It sounds a little cofusing, maybe clean it up a bit, but I like the overall idea and effect it has.
Perkins: I personally wouldn't do that because it's two different letters so Mrs.Perrin wouldn't know which one to grade, I would pick the one you think is stronger.
Tony: Look at how Tim O'Brien starts the book, he just jumps right in there so I would say yours is fine but grab the reader into the essay.
Michelle: First off Kiowa happens to be my favorite too! :) Well why does he carry those items, what about kiowa's personality and backround make him carry those things (like who is father is for example!)
Sorry everyone I was helping my dad put up the tennis net!Which is a harder task then you might think!
Oh and I have a stupid question:
In the poem are we allowed to use 'you'.
Hey everyone. I was thinking about doing an advice column for "change". I was going to make it like a regular column and just ask questions you would normally find being asked. Should I make the questions and answers go back to how O'Brien represents change or back to the literal story of the book in general?
I'm doing an interview with Jimmy Cross, as i said earlier, do you think she would care if i swore? as him? when they're in the "sweage" field, you can guess what word i'm wanting to use, cause i want it to show the dirty mouth that they got there, you think i'd get in trouble?
daisy, i don't think you are allowed to use "you" unless in your genre you are specifically adressing one person (advice column, interview etc.)
yeah daisy i wouldn't use you
and jacob my best guess would is that you are allowed bc its in the book and you are being the person and i used it in mine too.
haha nope jacob i don't nah mean? don't even no what that means? jk.. but still confused cuz ppl r tellin me different like you said the bike thing... marrisa said relate it to your personality... and whoever YON is said my 1st idea was perfectly fine?????
alright, jacob: perrin said that we are allowed to use that s-h-i-t word. which is good because no other word can really describe the field. Mud and sewage are no where near as powerful. Most people are adding it in there.
For youur adice column, i am doing one too. Perrin said that the answers just have to deal with what o'brien says about the topic your doing
lol, well tony, honestly i'm just as lost as you are, i'm just sticking with the bike thing, i think if you told a story about how you hurt your back or whatever, that would probably work.
yes! i get to swear FOR SCHOOL! wooot. thanks michelle.
I'm also doing an adive column on change :O! Mine goes back to examples of the book and then that relates to the whole big idea of change. For you though I would say to focus on the big (just because I htink it is the easier one for someone who writes like you to do).
Jacob: I think it would find because you're explaining a place, just don't go overboard on it ;)
Tony: It's Von, but anyway, you can combine and drop out all the ideas, just which ever person's stuck you as the best for your style of writing.
sorry jacob I meant I think it would be fine. But I guess you have approval anyways ;) have fun swearing
it's all good. i understood. and yeah, but shh... don't tell my mom.
so... all your ideas helped but does that mean i have to make up a story for my essay? like tell how i hurt my back and fit it into my "physical" and "emotional" pain???
yeah, that would work, just incorporate it into the physical and emotional aspects
Tony: If hurting your back is your story then think of this, what items other then the pain do you carry that relate to your back and it's pain? Then put that in there and weave it all into an essay.
You don't have to make up a story either just a common element that you go back to in the essay.
advice column...Alright i had four questions but i exed one out because it was too alike to my journal entry for change. so i got a new question and besically two questions (dealing with two complete differences) are asked by the same person. should i do that or get a new question??
Michelle: I think you're fine with just the ones you have, all mine in the advice column are asked by unknow people that have kept there names sercret, I have only two questions for my advice column but it last three pages, so if you put alot of beef in your answers and you go into five pages then have one question. I like the two questions because you add a little curve ball to the advice column and make it seem more realistic at least to me because you see two questions asked by the same people all the time :).
Question: I'm writing the advice column and I realized I say Tim a couple of times but I'm writing from the idea that I know a person in Tim O'Brien's platoon that is talking about him. I am allowed to do that?
For the photo i know you have to show change so i was gonna take a photo of a bird, than i was gonna take a picture of the grass where the bird was standing and tell how overtime the bird flew away, but the bird flew away before i could take a picture :( ... any other ideas???
sry for all the questions but heres another one... for "hero- the journey" how would i relate, or even write a poem about that bc all my other topics are filled: 1. War is for a survey 2. change is for a photo 3. characters is for the brochure and that leaves 4. hero- the jouney for a poem???
Tony: You could just do that again but if birds keep flying away choose a goose or duck. There is alot of them right now behind the highschool. If all that fails you could take a stuff animal bird or cut out bird to act as a bird! :)
Tony: Here's idea: How about a Journal entry from the p.o.v of the hero explaining how he became a hero, because you can go through all the hero steps then and relate back to the book. :)
alright tony... so no offence but how the heck does a bird flying away have anything to do with the book? idk mayb i'm just not seeing it but i don't understand like what you are relating it to. like maybe pick a certain time in the book where change occured then think of some picture you can take then relate the two
nd whats all this about having to be in order??? what does that mean i dont know what ppl r talking about the multigenre has to be in order??? one more question and im set for the rest of the weekend... do we do the brochure on one character and tell everything about him up to his death? thank you to everyone and anyone who answers/answered my questions!!!!
daisy's idea works too! so go with wha ever!
Thanks Daisy that helps :) And I'm not really sure if you can say Tim but I'd write O'Brien just to be safe =/
Also for characters I drew a picture. I drew basically this kid just standing there with his hands in his pockets and on the wall his shadow has this menacing smile and his holding a meat cleaver like he's going to kill something (Don't ask) I was thinking about the whole tounge-necklace ordeal and how Mary Anne was perfectly sane and just a regular woman and then she walks in with a necklace of human tounges.
I guess what I'm asking is in general, what am I supposed to do for "characters"? How O'Briend portrays them or the idea of characters in general? Obviously I can do both but which is what I should be doing with my time?
okay tony. the order is just saying all your genres you put in the order you seem feels strongest like change war hero etc. because remember you neesd to combine all the genres in like a scrapbook, blog journal web page etc
ight von... that sounds better than a poem, not easier but better so do you think you can explain that a wee bit more for me? like just the whole basis and journal entry? thank you!!!
Tony i also did the picture for change and what i did was take a picture of a unbloomed dandelion next to a bloomed dandelion. maybe u could do something similar like maybe a pinecone next to a pine tree - Perkins
holy crap michelle! i did not no we had to make all of our genres a scrapbook? how would we do that just like put them into a binder and call them a scrapbook?
ha thanks perkins but the bird flew back yes! i got some really good shots it was the darnest thing to cuz i took your advice and went outside to take a picture of this baby flower we had nd ull never guess but the bird flew right by the tree where the plant was! AMAZING! nd michelle? would that be fine just putting it into a binder nd calling it a scrapbook? i really had no idea bout the scrapbook thing...
Nikki: If you're doing a picture then you might want to explain the person him/her-self what kind of things would they wear, explain the person, because I think you're suppose to only have one charater.
Tony: Let's say you're hercules, the journal entry would be a log, about how you swiped the hydra's neck again and again. You're explaining your day pretty much. So here's a good setup:
Your a person in the Vietnam war: be in O'brien's platoon and say you went through all the steps of being a hero in the entry! Also the putting your stuff all together, it can be anything, a binder scrapbook, journal... etc. Although if you were to do a scarpbook I don't think just shoving it in a binder would do...
And thanks Nikki (if you don't mind) for the advice on the advice column! :)
Hey, I was doing group 4 and chart or graph relating to war. I know O'Brians main point was how cruel the war was so if I do a graph of deaths, focusing on kids and inacint people then explain it would that work out ok?
Thanks,
Kevin
That would be perfectamus Kevin! You could even get real creative and do like kids killed by certain weapons or tatics. Make sure you relate it back to the book in your explaination! :)
hey daisy i really appreciate you helping me... thanxxxxx!!! nd thanks for the setup to but do i say what ive done to become a hero? and throwing it in a binder isn't scrapbooking? what if i put some color into it?
Tony: Put some color, and slant some items, and maybe even some stickers or captions or pictures that relate. And yeah say what happened in your life to make you a hero! :)
-Thanks
heyy guys!
question: are we supposed to double space a newspaper acticle? i know we are supposed to for everything else but should we for that one?
Leanne
Leanne: You should, I didn't want to for my war manual because it looks weird but the point of double spacing is so that Mrs.Perrin's eyes don't bleed when she has to read the papers! :) So I would double space it so Mrs. Perrin has an easier time reading it. :)
for the things you carrry do you really have to tell a story?
i was just doing random things i carry everyday?
thanks so much daisy. your such a good problem solver. kirstie you do need a story in the beginning of something important you carry and like why. even though throughout hte paper you should explain a few of the items the beginning item needs an actual story. I know confusing right!?
Thanks Leanne :)
Kristie: If you're confused look at it this way and it might help: you need less important items that you carry just to be in the essay somewhere, but the more important items, like maybe your water bottle, get some describition added to them. I would put your most important item at the very top and then tell a story about why that item is so important :).
woah i'm not really doing it! (:
First: DAISY IS A SUPERHERO.
Second: *****DEAR MRS. PERRIN***** I'm doing a magazine article for characters, Mary Anne, and I did it and I really like how it turned out but it's SEVEN PAGES. I already shortened it from over eight down to the seven it is and I don't think I really can anymore. Is it okay that it's so long?
but what if i havent done anything to become a hero daisy? should i make something up?
Tony, did o'brian always tell the exact truth?
Emily: Thanks That made my day! :)
Tony: Make up the person from the p.o.v. you're writing from, for instance for my advice column I said that some people from the book were my firends, they really aren't but it's not really me who is the 'I'(writer of the advice column) in the advice column if that makes sense.
I was just wondering, is Wikipida ok for this or not? I'm just looking at it for statistics?
Okay, this is part of my survey response:
In a survey conducted between fifteen people of different sexes, ages, and ethnicities, it was found that over twenty-five percent of people immediately think of a superhero from a comic book such as Superman or Spiderman when they hear the word hero.
I don't like how I said "In a survey conducted" but I don't know how else to word it. What does everybody else think?
Daisy: You're welcome! But, it's so totally true!
alright emily... the in the survey conducted...that part sounds fine but when added the rest of your sentance, it doesn't really make complete sense ya know? maybe try something like changing the order around. not sure if it'll work but like between fifteen people of blah blah blah who took a survey about blah blah blah etc. it would be harder to just change the begining instead of just mixing around a few words. sorry if it didnt help!
Hey Mrs Perrin said we could arrange the project any way we felt represented the book right?
Kevin: The source that must not be spoken can never be used for research.
Emily: I really like it, maybe you could use the word, taken, or given? I like what Michelle said too! :)
Yup she said whichever way made sense to you and your putting it all together! :)
im doing an advice column, as mentioned before. do i double space it? like i am actually putting them in columns like you would see it in a magazine or newspaper.
ight thanks guys how l8 r u staying up? cuz im gonna pull an all nighter since its sat. nd i might need a lil bit more help... ?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you try finding something not from that word. thanks though
i'll be up prettyyy late working on this so if you need help i'll try to help
k cool thanks
nah forget it, i had to get up early and im getting tired. Besides my projects more than halfway done. i can totally finish it tommorow
daisy way to spell my name wrong, i'm adding that to the emotional side of my essay, no one can say or spell my name. i'm changing it to kersty. easier right?
is your e-mail on this blog thing?
Does anyone know if the reflection/summing it up part is graded or not? So like if it is not very good will it or not affect my grade?
my guess is that it was like the last one we did. She reads over it to see what we learned and like the reflection, what grade we deserve blah blah blah. It will count for points for being done but if it's not amazing you shouldn't get alot of points off. that will not be a large portion of the project grade. if you can, tweak it a little so it's a little better but i wouldn't worry about that part too much.
I'm sooo sorry Kirstie!
Kevin I think it will be like five/ten points, to get an A though it does state in the rubric you need the Prologue! :)
If ANYONE would like me to revise their paper I promise if you send it in to my email
dglaeser@verizon.net
before 1:00PM tomorrow I can get it back to you before 3:00 tomorrow.
I have no idea how long I'll stay up...
hey daisy i have a question for you, like on my advice column on which question you believe has a stronger answer. I have asked and answered both of these questions already but i only need one to add in for finalizing.
ight daisy im almost finished im gonna send it to you tommorow though and kirstie i always get yer name spelled right... ;)
o yeah and how do you get it to your email like i punched it in the address bar and it wont go to it???
tony, to get to your email you need to go to your website that ur own email is on like if u have a yahoo account yahoo.com aol isaol.com etc. then go into the mail section. there u type her email in the where to send box and add the attachments of your project parts. not sure if that is what you mean or not...?
nice job tony. haha
If you can't do it from your own e-mail, you can always try and touch my hyberlinked name on the blog, get sent to my profile for the blog and then on the left side it says contacts and then email, see if yu can do it that way :).
Michelle: Which questions do I have to choose from?
i no right??? hahah
daisy, should i send them to your email or just put them on here? no one has really put there actually ideas on the blog yet. i don't want to like get in trouble for it lol.
Just send it my email because then it's easier for me to edit... thanks ;).
I'm going to sleep so I'll be on right when I wake up...
About the "Things I Carry" essay:
i heard we were supposed to start with a story...do we start with a story, or do we start with a lead...or is the story the lead?? hopefully someone's awake to answer this :)
heyy hanan.. The lead is a story. It's grabbing the reader in while still following o'brien's novel. The story is basically one of the most important thing you carry.
thanks so much for clearing that up for me Michelle! :)
This may sound stupid but my brain has died. I cannot think of the word that basically means "always trying to impress someone" it is on the tip of my tongue and i don't know what it is. Can anyone help?
Hey for hero, the journey would we be aloud to switch the order of the steps up a bit. I'm writing a poem and it would make more sense if I put the mentor part before the hero gets motivated and after he is reluctant at first. (Putting step 4 in the middle of step 3)
hey emily, my guess is that that should be alright. Just make sure it makes sense. The hero journey does not always follow that specific order
Also for the journal entry are we allowed to like play with the font? So it seems like the journal is actually a journal being written in?
Michelle is it: brag, Bragart, kiss up, teacher's pet,show off, boast,gloat, or something?
Thanks michelle, I'm not sure about the journal though, but I don't see why you couldn't changing the font makes sense to me.
ah nice try.But it is not any of those words unfortunately. Like i'm trying to say that medal guy was always trying to impress his dad. And like my advice column, each person has like those funny little nicknames of whatever and i want to use that word for that dude. lol
Oh I get it you want to say that Norman Bowker wants to be appreciated, get attention from, or feel important to his dad. You could try something like "daddy pleaser" lol, or "the son he always wanted" or you could say something with the word proud of or pride I don't know the word for it is on the tip of my tongue too.
Heck you could even use "help me" or " the guy with daddy issues"
I'll keep thinking.
oh my gosh emily i love you! thank you so much! :)
...no problem... ur welcome.
lol i used "daddy pleaser" ha i was trying to make up one like that but i couldn't think! ha
Hey Emily,
For when your were talking about the Hero the Journey part, I would say that yes you can mix around the steps. I would say as long as they are all present. However, don't make them so out of order that it becomes unclear and confusing. When I did my hero the Journey, my steps at the end ran together, but they were all there.
Kirstie,
About the question you had about telling a story.....
I think that everything you carry is a story. Its a story about you. Everything that makes up you and who you are. Instead of being boring and listing random things, try to connect all the things you carry back to your own life story.
I will try to answer more of your questions, but when you have dial-up internet its really hard. Yesterday it took me an hour to open a website.
Emily: If it makes more sense then do it that way, but don't go changing around a million steps...
Michelle: again i wouldn't change the font because some fonts when printed are harder for Mrs. Perrin to read... so I would just stick to the good old stuff :)
dangg. ha alright Daisy. I thought the other font would be more interesting because it looked more like handwriting and they would have handwritten there journals in Nam. Just wondering though. Yeah I would rather not get stupid points marked off either.
hey daisy i sent my mulitgenre essay to your email... did you get it?
o and i thought of a way to put the hero the journey into a poem... tell me if the first line is good
He started off as a baby
Into sports? Mabey... thats all ive got so far
Okay, one more question.
For my interview, you know how Mrs. P said that we can have less then 21 questions if the questions are deep, and solid? I'm finishing this one up right now, and I have about 15 questions. Some of my questions have 3-5 paragraph answers. Is that okay?
And I'm doing it for the Hero genre and interviewing Tim O'Brian.
It covers all the journey sections too, just to make that clear.
Thanks :)
Markus
Markus that seams fine as long as you answer them throughly... but i would add like two more questions if you can, just to be safe...
Yeah Markus I agree with Tony. That should be alright if, like Mrs. P said, you answered then deep and thoroughly. And for the interview your doing, is it interviewing O'brien about the hero journey or what?
*NOTICE*
I'm disturbed at the fact that Mrs. P's Enriched Language Arts class can't type with proper grammar. I'm freaking out here....
It's me interviewing O'Brian.
And thanks, I'll try to get a few more jammed in there. Yeah, I don't have any 1-2 sentence answers.
Thanks, and sorry about that rant.
I just had to insert that in there.
Markus
O and question when you gave ppl the survay how long does that have to be cuz like i just said that i picked three questions out of the 21 that best described my survay and than i showed the results in list form than underneath i just put my conclusions from the survay
ha its all good markus
tony: Just make sure that you explain enough of the answers to go with what you believe and your conclusion (like what you are trying to prove). If only three is strong enough to conclude what you think, and what the people who took your survey thinks, then that should be fine. If you have any more that also go with what you are trying to say, I would add those too.
Markus: Sorry for not using proper grammar! I'm just trying to help people and myself!I find it very funny that you brought that up though :)
That sounds good Tony.
If those questions best describe your survey, then go for it. It should turn out fine.
I'm kind of confused though, you're talking about writing your conclusion for the survey right?
I lied.
Another question:
Does our opinion on our graph have to be present? I think that presenting the facts and making a conclusion is what I'm supposed to do, but should our opinion be inserted into there?
Thanks
Good morning,
Some of you are early birds and late night owls. Dushek: 8 pages! Wow that is a lot. Can yout try to get it down a bit more. 5 will hurt, but I'll allow it.
I am glad to see you are helping each other. Tony--do you listen when I talk in class?
Daisy--do not put others essays before your own. It is great you are doing all of this work and giving all of this help, but don't let your work get put on the back burner for other students.
The Things They Carried Essay-The opening story is just that, a story. You are telling me something about you. Ex: I sat breaking peas with my grandma. She was a West Virginia born woman whose heritages included Cherokee Indian, German and religion. She saved everything and part of her saving was to save me. I told her her how I was awarded the Louis Armstrong award for Jazz and at the banquet I would receive my award. "Aren't you proud. It is so cool"
"Pride goeth before a fall young lady. Remember that." She never missed a beat in breaking her beans. I carry with me the moments when her advice not knocked me down many a peg. I carry the knowledge of her meaning to do well by me and her ability to remind of how small I was in the big world. I also carry how when she did praise me I knew I had done something really well. I was driving her to the hospital to see my cousin and she tapped my knee and said, "I have always admired the choices you make with boys." It may not sound like much, but I'll never put that down. I'll carry with me that one statement. I'll carry her pride in me and my pride in myself.
Like that pride, I carry many things because to forget is to reduce them to a pebble in an ocean of boulders. End beginning of story and move into the things I carry that are seemingly insignificant but carry much weight.
Keep working hard. Don't make fun of my story, that would be wrong:)
For the collage, I am still very confused. Like I do not understand what to do in the paragraph with it. I have all my pictures for the actual collage but I don't know how to do the paragraph.
ah yeah markus im talking about my conclusion... well example: almost everyone that took my survey said that they are not ready for war so i would put
80%- Not ready for war
20%- Ready for war
This sums up what i tried to prove about war. My survey shows that not everybody wants to go to war, or for that matter is ready.
*That was just an example*
Mrs. Perrin, I'm so glad you said that to Tony. That's exactly what I was thinking.... :)
Thanks soooo much. I was still mega confused how on we're supposed to start The Things I Carry essay. Now, I have to change it a bit more.
Yeah Tony, that looks okay.
This question is direct towards Mrs. P. I hope you are still on right now to check this! okay so in my The Things I Carry essay...it seems that a lot of the things i carry shows that I have the mind and personality of an 8 year old. For my opening story should I show how I carry imagination? Like make a crazy little story or something?
also for the brochure does the whole thing have to describe one character?
Yes Tony. It has to basically be saying everything you know about one character. Mrs. Perrin said that in class a million times. My guess is that you picked it for your character so you pick one character and describe everything about them. Just make sure that it is saying something different then your other genres!
haha good one mrs. p yeah i listen but i started second guessing everything i was telling myself to do... so i just started asking questions that didnt need answered really i wuz kinda just making sure of myself...
Hahaha,
What a dilemma I have right now.
I'm interviewing Tim O'Brian, like he's sitting next to me right now.
How do I mention characters if we don't know if they really exist or not?
thanks everyone for all the help
i'm doing a recipe for Mary Anne, i was just wondering if it has to be emotion and physical or just one or the other?
can i say she carried a suit case? ha i'm a tad confused.
You can put the emotion and physical in because if you remember teh recipe Mrs. Perrin gave during class about war she said like 5 cups of blood, 3 cups guts and 4 ounces fear. So I believe you can put both in there. It would make it stronger in my opinion
Hello, this is Tyler. I'm finnished and putting it together. I am wondering if mrs. perrin wants us to include our rough drafts, and where we would put them.
Hey Tyler! yeah she sad to include the rough drafts just to like put them at the end.
im doing a letter to the editor for war and im writing two from different points of view. I just wondering if i can use stuff like "you" "i" and contractions. I think i can but i want to be sure. - Perkins
thanks michelle!
i'll probably put it on here later to make sure its right.
Sorry- had to go work
Tony: I got the email- and like I promised I'll get them all done by 3! Also on the survey think of why you put some of the other questions there, you can support two different points in your results! :)
Markus: I think that will be just fine amount, if you have a beef in the answers like you do, but I would deffiently have about three sentences answers in there sometimes beacuse it just gets boring reading long responses, plus real people don't answer in all long entences. No I don't think it would be a good idea to put your opinion in there. The percent looks fine that way! Markus! Were YOU paying attention in class! The author in the book Tim O'Brein isn't real! You're intrveiwing a FAKE charater! So yeah just act as if the people really exist!
Michelle: Paragraph goes back to book, how do the pictures represent your section (change war etc.) but also go back to the bok? That's what you have to answer in the paragraph.
oh yeah does everything have to be double spaced or just our "the things i carry"
Thinks! wow, that was a really fast response!
Kirstie: I would do emotion too and how she dressed!
Tyler: Yup put the rough drafts in the end but make sure they're in the same order as the order in the final :).
Perkins: Since it's a letter it only makes sense to use I and you :). But since it's a letter to someone unknown you can't use I.
everything has to be double spaced like daisy said earlier. We don't want Mrs. P's eyes to bleed.
Perkins: double space, like I aid befe it's double spaced for a reason so Mrs.Perrin doesn't have a hard time reading it!
Whyt not? just kidding I swear. yeah that makes sense. thanks
ha thank you so much daisy it helps me alot, but i want to let you know that you don't have to do this for me... like mrs. p said don't forget about your essay...
So wait...Daisy. Like again on the collage (sorry it just is not clicking!)My collage is on my fav character, which happens to be yours too. I listed all the things that i have pictures for and wrote like a sentence or small description of each thing. That is basically what the book did was just roll out a list of things that they carried like by necessity. Then Tim was like and this character also carried this this n this. he never really explained why they carried it or what it meant about their personality or anything.
No it's fine I've redone my essay three different times :) so I think I'll be fine and I'm going to edit the rest today.
My interview turned out to be 5 pages. Do you guys that that's okay?
Now to write my lead for The Things I carry..
Michelle: that's where your creaticvity steps in, you know that Kiowa was religious, so you add that in your paragraph as to why he has a certain item. Go back to what Kiowa does in certain situations, like the tent, when the kid turned on the flashlight, did Kiowa tell the kid to turn off the flashlight? what does that say about Kiowa?
My fav. charatcer has to be Henry Dobbins, only because of the stockings chapter but Kiowa is second best :)
Markus: That's a little too much but I guess if you can't shorten it it would be fine :).
hey im not so sure about my lead to the things i carry. I start off saying a few of the things i carry. then i go into detail about one of them. then throughout the rets of the essay i go on in short paragraphs about a few of the things. Does this sound ok or not?-Perkins
Woahh how weird! i loved Henry too!! lol
Still? You think so?
I even pulled out a question...
5 pages. I can't pull out anymore. ):
okay i think you might still need a short story in the begining of yours.
Perkins: Perrin prepared a proper prompt for you, I would begin with a story that explains you.
Look at that first few words :)
for when im putting it all together, i'm doing a scrap book type thing in a binder, do you think it would be okay if i cut the margins and stuff off of my essay, journal entry, etc? cause i want to kind of back them on pretty paper, but the pretty paper is as big as the other paper...
Oh daisy now your adding alliteration into the blog?!?!
yeah perkins, perrin,prepared, proper, and prompt thats preety funny. Anyway my lead is similar to that its just not as long. I have a few shorter versions of that throughout my essay- perkins
kate arnica, i think that sounds like a lovely idea. she never gave us specific intructions about margins except for the things i carry.
Kate: I think It would be fine :)
perkins: Mine is pretty short too, as long as if fits like a pargraph-paragraph and 1/2 I think it will do :).
ok thats just about how long it is, but i my try to make it longer.
Okay I know this is probably going to sound like a really stupid question! But this project is really draining my brain out haha. Okay so I am doing a brochure for war and I was wondering the information that goes into it, is it what the book says about war? And what O'Brien says? Or just war in general?
So I'm finally trying to start the paragraph on my collage. The first sentence (only thing i can think of) is "This collade is significant to the research of Kiowa because it is a great visual aid to understand his personality and background." Is that too like stupid sounding? i don't know it just doesnt sound right to me.
Recipe for Mary Anne
1 suit case
1 flight to and from Vietnam
½ cups of guts
¼ ounces of manliness
5 cups curiosity
1/8 willing to learn
1 dark green bandana
1 dream to marry Mark Fossie
2 ounces of ignorance
i'm guessing that this is what im'm supossed to do, i just have to organize and put it all together?
beth i think its supposed to be about what you gto from the book about war. about what you think it is saying about war.
Beth: what the book's veiw of war is I think would be best, you can make it an item for war or anti-war but it's your choice.
Michelle: It sounds fine to me, I think it's a fine lead, I just sent you back the essay overveiw.
Kirstie_ dont say from vietnam. Remember in the book it said she was like lost or something. I don't think it ever said she went back home
Kirstie: I think that will be fine, make sure when you put it all together in the recipe you have certain things done in certain ways due to her character and how somethings were a dramtic change and some were always there :)
good call Michelle :) I was thinking her death but yeah that makes more sense.
Kirstie< you do have the right idea. Now all you need is to put your "ingredients" into steps.
Yeah Kirstie I think that sounds really good! Good job :) But I think also your suppose to add something else like stir the ..... and the ..... together then add the ...... and bake at 350 for example, thats not it at all but I remember in class when Mrs.Perrin made her recipe it went something along the lines of that.
oh thanks i was going to check i was just guessing with that part!
Daisy for my overview of my essay at the end you said nice start to your essay! Ha that was my whole essay... ???? i thought it only had to be two pages long
Okay thank you so much everybody :) I just wanted to make sure!
Kirstie, first off I don't think Mary anne came back from vietnam so it would be like a one way ticket or at least I don't think all of her came back she left part of herself behind also no offense but your missing the point in a recipe multiple things are taken and put together to make a whole new thing. Are you just trying to create Mary Anne or are you trying to show how to create a CHANGED Mary Anne. Ex: Take one 17 year old girl who wears culootes and put her in Vietnam for 3 weeks. Let her exlore the new world and then take her out of the oven (vietnam) and what you have left is a ready to eat spirit of a girl who's focus on life has changed. What I'm trying to say is what you have is good just put it in Chronological order with steps. Also Mrs. P said that we had to say things like how many the recipe will serve and stuff. hope this helps and that it even makes sense. if not just ignore me.
Tony: I only got two paragraphs... up to "the decent kid I am today". Just send the second half through e-mail again but on my computer that only equals half a page...
wait for the recipe do we have to have directions or are just the ingredients ok? -Perkins
perkins: we need to do both the ingredients and directions
? that is mt last sentence? but its not 2 paragraphs? send it back to me... wat i sent to you
Perkins: Nope you have to have the steps to prepare and make the topic, not just the items.
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